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Measure J Hearing Today, Potential Harbinger of What Will Come in Correa Lawsuit

Posted by Chris Nguyen on February 18, 2015

north_orange_county_community_college_district_employer_logo_fullThe hearing in the North Orange County Community College District Measure J case is slated to be heard this morning.  After the initial count showed Measure J winning by a very narrow margin (34 “yes” votes need to be tossed for J to fail), Opponents of Measure J launched a recount in order to examine the provisional ballots cast in the election.  Measure J is a $574 million bond measure.

They found 42 provisional ballots that weren’t signed by the voter and “identified hundreds of signatures [on absentee and provisional ballots] that a reasonable person could not identify as similar to the signature on the voter registration card.”

With a four-year-old state law making it harder to toss ballots in a recount, very few recounts (if any) have overturned the results of an election in California.  Indeed, in Orange County, no recount since then has managed to change any winner’s vote margin.

Former Senator Lou Correa has not yet filed his lawsuit in the First Supervisorial District Special Election, but I would suspect that is because his camp is keeping a close eye on the Measure J hearing.  When not even a single vote changed in the recount, leaving Andrew Do in office as the new Supervisor, Correa switched to examining provisional ballots (i.e. the Measure J opponents’ strategy).

If the Measure J opponents prove wildly successful in tossing ballots, that’d be a good sign for Correa.  If the Measure J opponents fail to toss ballots, that’d be a bad sign for Correa.  If Measure J opponents barely prevail in that ballot tossing effort, then Correa’s camp needs to carefully scrutinize whether they have enough ballots to toss to make a difference.  Measure J opponents only need to toss 34 ballots out of 154,118 cast.  Correa needs to toss 43 ballots out of 48,339 cast (technically, 48,626 ballots were cast in the First Supervisorial District Special Election, but those 287 voters who cast blank ballots aren’t likely to matter; had a bunch of them been Correa undervotes, we would have heard about it by now).

6 Responses to “Measure J Hearing Today, Potential Harbinger of What Will Come in Correa Lawsuit”

  1. Greg Diamond said

    So: all eyes not TOTALLY turned to SD-37, eh?

    This pair of cases may turn out to be quite important even beyond their substantive merits. I think that Correa’s is more likely to switch than J’s, though. (Systematic vs. Random Error.)

    Do you have the case number and Department for the Measure J hearing?

  2. Winston Duvall said

    There is of course the old fashioned way for Lou to win:

    Being a decent candidate, knocking on doors, talking to the voters, not hiring flunkie insiders to do a professionals job. He might also try not employing a vote splitting troll to siphon off the Asian vote. After all, race doesn’t matter, does it Lou???

    When do we start holding Lou and the democrats responsible for the lackluster, horrible campaigns they run by handing them defeat, and not expect some lame brained lawsuit.

  3. Greg Diamond said

    Hmmmm. This person professes insider knowledge and speaks with familiarity, but no one with this name shows up in a search for OC. Looks like just another camouflaged anonymous attack to me.

    Taking it seriously nonetheless: everything you say about Correa could be true and it still would not mean that a court case ferreting out any election-related corruption in Little Saigon would be “lame-brained.” Nice try, though!

    I want Republicsns in Little Saigon not to be pressed into engaging in election misconduct — as has been widely alleged to have been occurring for almost a decade, from sources within the Vietnamese community. When Chris Nguyen is consulting for a candidate who is not breaking the rules, and is running against a machine politician, I don’t want to see him put at a disadvantage.

    By the way: I feel the same about candidates from every race and ethnicity, including my own and including traditional Democratic strongholds. It just so happens that the amount of “smoke” in this particular area suggests a greater than normal possibility of fire.

    • Winston Duvall said

      Clearly, Mr. Diamond does NOT live in the district an was not exposed to the WIDE and very effective differences of politicking by the candidates. More scary however, is the idea that someone with Diamonds stature would spend time researching blog commenters backgrounds.

      One need not be Sherlock Holmes to understand why Lou failed. I think the poster “professed” common sense understanding of what happened. If there was malfeasense, then by all means it should be uncovered, but Lou LOST fair and square, a lawsuit would change nothing and certainly not your mind whoever you are.

      PS- Chris Phan was little more than a vote splitting TROLL. That will cost him long term.

      • Greg Diamond said

        The same dull and cowardly people keep showing up in local blogs using either obviouus pseudonyms or plausible but apparently fake names. You look like you could be one of them, but it’s not worth pursuing.

        When you say that “malfeasance” should be uncovered, but assert without investigation that “Lou LOST fair and square,” you contradict yourself. He lost squarely, but it is not clear that he lost fairly.

        Actually, the spoiler was Correa. Correa couldn’t outpace Do even with Phan and Nguyen in the race. He’d have been killed in a one-on-one matchup. Phan, though, would have gotten by far most Democratic votes — not so much based on his ideology as due to his great personal biography, his honesty, and his openness, friendliness, and approachability — and he would have squashed Do one on one, or even with Chuyen in the race.

        I hope that the GOP doesn’t punish him because I recognize and value the difference between an honest Republican and a dishonest one. But if it happens, then I hope he’ll continue to run for office as an NPP or (if he were so inclined) even as a relatively conservative Democrat, because he’s competent, trustworthy, and empathetic.

        You think that that makes him a loser? I think that thinking that makes you a loser.

        • Winston Duvall said

          To which I respond, the same self important unemployed political wannabee’s keep writing on blogs (starting new ones), but making NO real difference.
          Lou Correa lost BECAUSE HE WAS A BAD CANDIDATE!
          There a lot of honest Republicans (and even a few democratic ones!!!) but, instead of jumping on your high horse and pursuing your neurotic theory about fraud, you should VISIT the district, knock on doors, to the voting population Do was the better candidate. To the largely Hispanic, non voting population, perhaps not. That my friend is the difference.
          I spent a nice portion of my life allowing and providing for Andrew Do and his countrymen to come here and live under the banner of freedom. What were you doing those days “Greg Diamond”. The next time you throw the term coward around, look in the mirror, My Father cleaned the camps at #4.Majdanek and his brother killed in Korea. Yet you have the gumption to call others “cowards”. Look closely at how you and your family got where they are, Mr. Diamond. History was not made by anyone other than the men and women you call cowards so easily.

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