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Guns and coffee

Posted by Thomas Gordon on February 1, 2012


Here we go again…..

An anti-gun group calling itself The National Gun Victims Action Council is attempting to organize a nationwide Valentine’s Day boycott of Starbucks because of the giant coffee chain’s gun policy.

Starbucks says that it does not ban guns in its stores; rather, it defers to local laws.

“Starbucks allowing guns to be carried in thousands of their stores significantly increases everyone’s risk of being a victim of gun violence,” NGAC CEO Elliot Fineman said in a news release. “Open and conceal and carry are among the reasons there are 12,000 gun homicides each year in the U.S. If we had England’s gun laws we would expect 375 gun homicides each year—97% less than we have. England’s gun laws are based on protecting public safety, ours on maximizing sales for the gun industry.”

Gosh Elliot, have you ever heard of the US Constitution or even bothered to read it?

The Starbucks policy made headlines in 2010 when gun owners decided to exercise their God given rights at businesses throughout the country. Many businesses responded by banning guns, but Starbucks refused. At the time Starbucks explained by saying:

While we deeply respect the views of all our customers, Starbucks long-standing approach to this issue remains unchanged. We comply with local laws and statutes in all the communities we serve. That means we abide by the laws that permit open carry in 43 U.S. states. Where these laws don’t exist, openly carrying weapons in our stores is prohibited. The political, policy and legal debates around these issues belong in the legislatures and courts, not in our stores.

To which Eliot Fineman said it is just bad policy, and hopes his boycott can change it.

“Starbucks steadfast support of the NRA’s lethal pro-gun agenda damages its ‘socially conscious company’ brand,” he said.

Seriously Eliot?

I don’t drink coffee but on Valentines Day it looks like I might have to take my gal and my gun down to the local Starbucks for a cup ó joe.

2 Responses to “Guns and coffee”

  1. Thomas, I will even buy you and your gal a a mocha-java-chino-4-pump-double-skinny-latte. Using England as a basis for their argument is laughable. They obviously look at a very narrow sector of gun crimes. If gun prohibition is so great for crime fighting, why do almost all “bobbies” carry firearms or have them readily available?

    I stand with Starbucks and with Frontsight who has initiated signature petitions for a ballot initiative to turn California into a “Shall Issue” state. Gun haters abound in this state and, fortunately, are the minority in the country where 35 states have shall issue permit statutes and only 2 are severely restricted to the point where only those who are in the inner circle may obtain one. Vermont, from what I understand, still has no permitting process, believing that it is your God-given right to carrry a firearm. Alaska only came up with a permit system to allow its residents to carry with reciprocity in other states. Anyone authorized by law to possess a firearm in Alaska, may carry one, openly or concealed without a permit.

    So, we stand alone in a state that spends too much time taking away the rights of other and redistributing its citizens wealth and not enough time on the real issues that affect us.

  2. thomasagordon said

    I appreciate your offer of the mocha java chino whatchamacallit, but you really don’t want to see me cracked out on Starbucks, let alone while carrying a weapon.

    Thanks for reading Jeff and your support of gun rights.

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